On normal diets you will never replace those nutrients lost so you leach it from other cells. Thus causing aging, this also happens when ur malnourished etc

people out here spewing goatis propaganda

goatis says wild stuff man take it with pinch of salt, this is also not true you should feel fantasitc when training. many people report more confidence and mental health and ofcourse better physical form. you dont look exhausted from a simply working out bro and if you do there are bigger problems for you.

I know bro hes kinda gone crazy bc of social isolation. Can’t argue gym is stressful tho.

spoken like someone who doesnt know weightlifting
traditional weightlifting especially olympic is very posterior chain dominant, strongman is posterior chain dominant, powerlifting is super niche down but still have big emphasis on legs and glutes
this happens only in dudes that chest press and do nothing else that is "wrong" ok but then its a problem with the people not the workout

Trust me bro even pullups are front chain. Any sitting exercise is wrong. Squats are wrong. Training chest if your mid traps are weak is gonna make the imbalance bigger. I see people doing rows but their mid traps are so weak that they shrug their shoulders and the upper traps get even stiffer.
My point is that as long as you are in this “wrong pattern” you might be able to train very lightly in the “right pattern” but as soon as it gets heavy you will take the least friction route and you will make the wrong pattern even wronger. If there is imbalance there is no point in training both sides bc the imbalance will stay the same or get worse. Only if your back chain is absolutely dominating your front you can train front and back chain and both will get stronger but back chain will stay dominant, you see?

i see your point, but muscle mass helps you with posture you can correct bad posture by working out back and neck muscles

yes but only if you do it right (very light and takes a lot of concentration at first) and it doesnt balance out if you train chest as well.

what? isolations can be used to prevent and fix imbalances like rear delts relative to front delts or side delts. do you know the spider physique its imbalance between limbs and torso which happens if you dont use some isolations.

Yes i agree on this isolation can be useful for fixing imbalance especially at first if you dont have a lot of mental access to the muscle.

also wdym "frauding". you got more muscular. the muscle is there. you arent pretending

imagine some guy with a super femine face but super jacked. Wouldnt look right would it?

and high test helps you get musculair but it doesnt not by itself make you muscular, unless you inject roids

Yeah i guess you just get more muscle from everyday movement

muscles fades away very very slowly so if you "lose" your gains in a few weeks then you didnt have many gains to start with. there are many reasons to workout you are stronger, resist injury better, better for hormones, better longevity etc. another dude said that women get more attracted to you which is true

Up to a point I agree

Goatis is kinda right bruh ppl who train a lot look exhausted bc their body literally hasn’t felt completely at rest in ages.

goatis says wild stuff man take it with pinch of salt, this is also not true you should feel fantasitc when training. many people report more confidence and mental health and ofcourse better physical form. you dont look exhausted from a simply working out bro and if you do there are bigger problems for you.

On top of that traditional weightlifting makes your front and back chain inbalanced (front becomes dominant instead of naturally it would be back chain dom).

spoken like someone who doesnt know weightlifting
traditional weightlifting especially olympic is very posterior chain dominant, strongman is posterior chain dominant, powerlifting is super niche down but still have big emphasis on legs and glutes
this happens only in dudes that chest press and do nothing else that is "wrong" ok but then its a problem with the people not the workout

Essentially it’s bad posture and I would argue that posture is way more important than muscle mass.

i see your point, but muscle mass helps you with posture you can correct bad posture by working out back and neck muscles

Also if you train a lot of isolation your muscles will develop weirdly imbalance like huge arms relative to body or small calves with big quads but also small hams and glutes. Or big biceps and triceps and small forearms. Also neck size gives away that you are not actually muscular bc high test but just frauding.

what? isolations can be used to prevent and fix imbalances like rear delts relative to front delts or side delts. do you know the spider physique its imbalance between limbs and torso which happens if you dont use some isolations.
also wdym "frauding". you got more muscular. the muscle is there. you arent pretending
and high test helps you get muscular but it doesnt not by itself make you muscular, unless you inject roids

I think goatis is right bro why be permanently stressed slightly for smth that literally starts going away the week you stop training.

muscles fades away very very slowly so if you "lose" your gains in a few weeks then you didnt have many gains to start with. there are many reasons to workout you are stronger, resist injury better, better for hormones, better longevity etc. another dude said that women get more attracted to you which is true

I'm sort of in the middle of this, you don't need to be a proffesional bodybuilder but you can try work out hard for 2 years 3x per week & then just maintain that physique with 2 moderate workouts per week. Anything more than 2 years is probably diminishing returns.

You will look pretty good lean after 2 years of training even with "Poverty Genetics"