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@Liverlover What does this mean?
@pz1try愛 It means your joints are not properly stacked because you dont have correct movement mechanics. It’s because the front side muscles are imbalanced to the back side muscles of your body to say it simply. This very commonly causes ankle, knee, hip, back problems. I bet your feet point outwards when you walk or stand relaxed. And you put all the weight in your heel. Can you confirm if that is true?
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I'm 17 years old and I'm not yet following the primal diet; I'm studying a lot before starting. I only consume a lot of raw milk daily (1 or 2 liters). So, my question is: could someone explain to me why I've been accumulating chronic pain and injuries that never fully heal? I injured my ankle about two years ago playing soccer; it's improved, but it hurts when I use it again. My tendons in both arms are overloaded due to gym workouts and hurt when I use them. Recently, I overloaded the cartilage in my chest, developing what's called costochondritis. It's improved, but it's not 100% and has probably become another chronic pain on my list. What could I do to eliminate my chronic pain?
@pz1try愛 I have literally had every one of the things you mentioned and also knee hip back and neck pain. My mom once brought me to er bc I had so much pain from the chest pain same thing you mentioned. I fixed it all by training the muscles to balance each other. Check out my post in offtopic about this too. You probably don’t breath properly with your diafragm and very fast and especially very superficial breathing so it means you’re stuck in the very top of inhalation you never fully exhale if you breath normally. It’s called hyperventilation it puts you in fight or flight mode and the muscles inbetween your ribs are probably extreeeemly tight thats why when you stretch your ribcage forcefully so gravity (me laying in bed before the ER) or with a bench press or smth your ribcage cant naturally expand bc the muscles inbetween ribs hold on to this insane contraction so it actually starts pulling on the bone really hard that causes it to inflame thus the pain.
Can you confirm again if I’m right or not? Im interested in your case and I could help you.
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@pz1try愛 It means your joints are not properly stacked because you dont have correct movement mechanics. It’s because the front side muscles are imbalanced to the back side muscles of your body to say it simply. This very commonly causes ankle, knee, hip, back problems. I bet your feet point outwards when you walk or stand relaxed. And you put all the weight in your heel. Can you confirm if that is true?
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@pz1try愛 I have literally had every one of the things you mentioned and also knee hip back and neck pain. My mom once brought me to er bc I had so much pain from the chest pain same thing you mentioned. I fixed it all by training the muscles to balance each other. Check out my post in offtopic about this too. You probably don’t breath properly with your diafragm and very fast and especially very superficial breathing so it means you’re stuck in the very top of inhalation you never fully exhale if you breath normally. It’s called hyperventilation it puts you in fight or flight mode and the muscles inbetween your ribs are probably extreeeemly tight thats why when you stretch your ribcage forcefully so gravity (me laying in bed before the ER) or with a bench press or smth your ribcage cant naturally expand bc the muscles inbetween ribs hold on to this insane contraction so it actually starts pulling on the bone really hard that causes it to inflame thus the pain.
Can you confirm again if I’m right or not? Im interested in your case and I could help you.
@Liverlover My chest cartilage pain started after I began breathing differently during workouts. During the concentric phase, I would inhale as much air as possible and hold my breath for 2-3 seconds, and during the eccentric phase, I would exhale very slowly. After training, I felt a slight discomfort that worsened in the following days. Since I didn't identify the cause immediately, I continued training, and in one of those workouts, I did bench presses, which made the situation even worse. About two months passed, and I improved considerably; now I can breathe deeply, which I couldn't before. However, I'm still not 100% cured. When I breathe deeply, I feel discomfort, which I presume means I've developed another chronic pain.
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@Liverlover Dude, my feet don't point outwards excessively like some people's; mine only point slightly.
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@Liverlover My chest cartilage pain started after I began breathing differently during workouts. During the concentric phase, I would inhale as much air as possible and hold my breath for 2-3 seconds, and during the eccentric phase, I would exhale very slowly. After training, I felt a slight discomfort that worsened in the following days. Since I didn't identify the cause immediately, I continued training, and in one of those workouts, I did bench presses, which made the situation even worse. About two months passed, and I improved considerably; now I can breathe deeply, which I couldn't before. However, I'm still not 100% cured. When I breathe deeply, I feel discomfort, which I presume means I've developed another chronic pain.
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Try pain formula.
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@eatrawmeat honestly he should probably buy a primal diet conference ticket correct? And eat frozen meat correct?
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I'm 17 years old and I'm not yet following the primal diet; I'm studying a lot before starting. I only consume a lot of raw milk daily (1 or 2 liters). So, my question is: could someone explain to me why I've been accumulating chronic pain and injuries that never fully heal? I injured my ankle about two years ago playing soccer; it's improved, but it hurts when I use it again. My tendons in both arms are overloaded due to gym workouts and hurt when I use them. Recently, I overloaded the cartilage in my chest, developing what's called costochondritis. It's improved, but it's not 100% and has probably become another chronic pain on my list. What could I do to eliminate my chronic pain?
I'm relatively new to the primal diet myself, so I can't help much about that.
About gym stuff, I got some experience. Your description sounds like you're overdoing it and have FAR too much volume. You probably train at least 4-5 times a week, and you probably do 6-7 exercises or more, with 3-4 sets each? Maybe even took every single one to failure?
If a lot of it hits the mark, you most likely just have multiple overuse injuries.
"Experts" tell you fancy words like costochondritis, telling you it's impossible, trying to make your life worse with poisons to relieve pain.
Meanwhile, people on the primal diet tell you the polar opposite, telling you it's from vaccines and toxins and the like. Saying all of it goes away just by hitting the right nutrition.
Here is my take.
Just like all of society has been duped with nutrients, we gym-goers have been duped about volume.
We don't need insane volume; we just need intensity.
I recommend doing 4 exercises with a single set to absolute failure each. Do 2-3 ramp-ups/warm-ups on your first exercise and 1 in every following.But for now, you need a serious deload; this means not doing nothing and getting hung up on nutrition; a proper deload means doing 20-50% of whatever weight you usually do.
The point is to give your body enough stimulation to get back on track without destroying yourself again.
Once you're feeling better, write the weight and reps you lift down and progress every single saison. By increasing your strength, you will naturally increase your definition and mass too. I recommend cutting your workout saisonto 2-3x a week and doing 60 minutes each, including 10 minutes of warm-up, like, for example, walking.
Also, in case you're still unsure about the Primal Diet, even as someone that isn't dogmatic about it, I'm fairly certain it's the real deal.
So the advice from RuskinPrimal is good advice too, at least nutrient-wise.
However, I believe it's not your main problem; it does seem like barely anyone is doing sports here, which honestly is quite ironic.
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I'm relatively new to the primal diet myself, so I can't help much about that.
About gym stuff, I got some experience. Your description sounds like you're overdoing it and have FAR too much volume. You probably train at least 4-5 times a week, and you probably do 6-7 exercises or more, with 3-4 sets each? Maybe even took every single one to failure?
If a lot of it hits the mark, you most likely just have multiple overuse injuries.
"Experts" tell you fancy words like costochondritis, telling you it's impossible, trying to make your life worse with poisons to relieve pain.
Meanwhile, people on the primal diet tell you the polar opposite, telling you it's from vaccines and toxins and the like. Saying all of it goes away just by hitting the right nutrition.
Here is my take.
Just like all of society has been duped with nutrients, we gym-goers have been duped about volume.
We don't need insane volume; we just need intensity.
I recommend doing 4 exercises with a single set to absolute failure each. Do 2-3 ramp-ups/warm-ups on your first exercise and 1 in every following.But for now, you need a serious deload; this means not doing nothing and getting hung up on nutrition; a proper deload means doing 20-50% of whatever weight you usually do.
The point is to give your body enough stimulation to get back on track without destroying yourself again.
Once you're feeling better, write the weight and reps you lift down and progress every single saison. By increasing your strength, you will naturally increase your definition and mass too. I recommend cutting your workout saisonto 2-3x a week and doing 60 minutes each, including 10 minutes of warm-up, like, for example, walking.
Also, in case you're still unsure about the Primal Diet, even as someone that isn't dogmatic about it, I'm fairly certain it's the real deal.
So the advice from RuskinPrimal is good advice too, at least nutrient-wise.
However, I believe it's not your main problem; it does seem like barely anyone is doing sports here, which honestly is quite ironic.
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@courage You were right, I was constantly overtraining. I've already stopped training and, even with rest, the pain doesn't completely go away; the recovery of my tissues is severely compromised.
@pz1try愛 I also once had the same issue. In my case recovery just didn't happen by resting alone. Just like you, I was told to stop training completely, but this kind of only "paused" my condition, and my condition was bad.
As I started to very lightly train again, basically just doing the motions without weight at first, it got rapidly better. Recovery of tendons and more delicate structures such as the shoulder was suddenly happening.
However, it's important to not overdo it while in that phase. As I mentioned, this works amazingly well; you will most likely feel like you're completely fine again within 2-3 weeks. However, this is deceiving, because you aren't fully healed yet. From my experience, this is the point you're at the highest risk of seriously injuring yourself if you decide to go for any PRs or do to much Volume. I highly recommend listening to your intuition, but with that in mind.
Don't overdo it, but also don't sit around all day hoping it will get better by just waiting, thinking your nutrition alone will fix it.
Your original post was 21 days ago, so I'm not sure what your current state is. I kind of just figured I'd drop some general stuff, even if you don't need it anymore, since that might be useful for some other people too.
